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Ex-Gay Visibility: Leaving Pride Behind

Even though the born-gay narrative has taken hold in society, there is a steady, and growing, ex-gay movement.

Andrew Rodriguez, Wayne Blakely, Elizabeth Woning on the Dr. J Show ep. 238

The term ex-gay might seem as mythical a creature as the unicorn, but in all actuality, there are more people today that are living as ex-gays than there are as gays. Fr. Sullins has explored this with two colleagues in a recently published paper https://www.mdpi.com/2411-5118/4/4/39). Today, Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse is joined by a panel to discuss ex-gay visibility day, why people leave the gay identity, why those who have left will feel pressure not to leave, and how to deal with a child who expresses a same-sex desire. Joining the panel are: Elizabeth Woning, founder of the Changed Movement, Wayne Blakely, founder of Know His Love Ministries, and Andrew Rodriguez, a licensed clinical therapist.

Elizabeth Wining is the co-founder of the Changed Movement (https://changedmovement.com/), holds a Masters in Theology, and is a licensed pastor at Bethel Church in Redding, CA, where she lives with her husband Doug. She attended Presbyterian Church (USA) seminar as an open lesbian, and lobbied for marriage an ordination of LGBTQ individuals. The Love of God drew her into a revelation that transformed her life, and she began her journey away from her lesbian identity.

Wayne Blakely is the founder of Know HIs Love Ministries (https://knowhislove.org/). After nearly forty years of living openly as a gay man, Jesus Christ convicted him that he had been living for self instead of for God. Today, Wayne writes and speaks around the world and on television sharing what God has done in his life, and what God promises to do for all who choose to establish their identity in the Lord, regardless of orientation.  “We ALL want to be loved and accepted.  As Jesus demonstrates His love for us, He invites us to let go of what is not good for us,” Wayne explains. “We can’t always choose our temptations, but we can choose our behaviors.”

Andrew Rodriguez is an LPC in PA, the owner and director of Integrity Christian Counseling, and the creator of the YouTube channel, https://www.youtube.com/@psychobible, which he uses to discuss psychology, theology, and sexuality through a Christian counseling lens. He is certified in Reintegrative Therapy, an approach for trauma and addictions found safe and helpful in exploring sexual attraction fluidity. Andrew’s mission is to educate the public on the truth about sexuality and therapy for unwanted same-sex attraction, advocate for client rights, and equip the church to effectively help sexuality strugglers. He is on the board of Voice of the Voiceless (https://www.voiceofthevoiceless.info/), which amplifies the voices of ex-LGBT. As a nondenominational Christian, Andrew also seeks to spread John Paul II’s Theology of the Body among Protestant believers. Andrew has been married to his precious wife Jessica since 2007.

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