By censoring the word “groomer,” Twitter is showing that it values adult sexual desires over protecting children.
Twitter protects groomers by censoring that word on its platform when it should be protecting children from groomers on its platform. Dr. Morse and Father Rob Jack discuss the problems with big tech platforms acting at the behest of the sexual revolutionaries and how it impacts the entirety of society.
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Father Rob Jack: Here with us now is Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse, and she heads the Ruth Institute, which is an interfaith, nonprofit organization helping defend the family and repair the damage of the sexual revolution, which is taking serious casualties right now in our world and and even in our church. Her most recent book is called The Sexual State How Elite Ideologies Are Destroying Lives.
And in some ways, Dr. Morse, I think they think they’re winning.
Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse: Well, maybe they do think they’re winning. I mean, in some in some polls, they are winning. You know, that it’s like they they control the government. They control the the media, they control academia. You know, they have a lot of control over a lot of and they’ve got all the big business working for them now, too. So. So yeah, they probably think they’re winning, but we will prevail because their ideology cannot stand.
And so as long as we don’t lose the faith and continue to stay in the fight, there’s always hope. And that’s what we hope we bring to people, you know, is is the courage and the and the hope to to stay in the fight and to continue to stand for the truth, like you were saying earlier.
Fr. Jack: Well, one of the most important things we can do, Doctor, and I make sure and we’re and we’re trying to do it, but it is a big challenge and it’s to recognize the fact that the culture has ceded its language to the sexual revolutionists and to these elite ideologies. And whoever controls the language, we can argue, can in some ways for some people, control reality.
Dr. Morse: Well, that’s very true. And the battle over language, a lot of times people think, oh, you’re just arguing about words. It’s no big deal. But that’s not true, because the use of language is about your thoughts, right? By changing the words you have available to you, they are changing how you think and what thoughts are available to you, and they’re channeling your thoughts into some very specific direction.
So, you know, any conversation about about words and language is extremely important. And we try at the Ruth Institute to help people have clarity, you know, about about which words to not use. Right. The sexual revolution is have created a term, you know, you don’t want to use it because the term, their terminology has ideology already baked into it.
And if you pick it up and use their language, it’s like a grenade that’s going to go off in your face. So why just leave it there and use words that accurately describe what you think is true? And you know, when you’re being barraged with propaganda all the time, it can be it takes a lot of you’ve got to keep your wits about you.
Let’s put it that way. So they don’t get swept away with using words that that have no real chance of conveying what you’re trying to say.
Fr. Jack: Well, because people are going to get bullied in the language. We see that happening all the time now. They’ll be bullied by well, if you don’t use this language or you don’t use my pronouns, we’re going to cancel you. And so it is a type of linguistic blackmail that if I call somebody a woman because she is a woman, even if she thinks she’s a man, I say to her, “miss,” or I use the word “she” all of a sudden, now, in the eyes of the elites, I’m a type of language criminal.
I’m a some weird predator, you know, trying to bring the harm to this person, which is total, total baloney.
Dr. Morse: Well, yes. And the way they have to continue to be aggressive about the language, because given that they’ve defined that as their turf, it’s not turf that they can ever win. Finally, ultimately, because you can’t. You’re are always going to be some little kid who’s going to say, “but it’s a boy. But mommy, that’s a man in a dress,” you know?
I mean, it’s like the emperor’s new clothes. You’re never going to be able to completely wipe trims out of people’s out of people’s view, out of their out of their minds, you know. And so, therefore, they have to be continually pummeling this. And I think, honestly, that’s part of the point of it, of the thing, you know, I mean, it gives it gives people the opportunity to be messing with others constantly, right.
As you slip with the pronouns, now you’re in trouble. And and the person who has set that system up has leverage over everybody around them. You know? And so it’s created a kind of atmosphere of fear, which is all the more reason to to stand firm with what you know, to be true. You know, somebody I was interviewing somebody who is I think they quoted Joseph Pieper.
And you may be familiar with this. I had never heard this before, but what when I was on Matt Fradd’s program his Pints With Aquinas program, he quoted Joseph Pieper saying that we are entitled to the truth that and that when you deceive someone, when you deliberately mislead or deceive someone, you are depriving them of that which they are entitled to.
Which is that which is the truth. You know, as fresh as rational beings, we’re entitled to to truth and to live in truth and to be able to to perceive the truth.
Fr. Jack: You’re absolutely right, because we can’t live without it. To to live without the truth would be would be deadly, literally deadly physically and or spiritually. I think where the truth is, you don’t need to breathe to go underwater while I go underwater and I drown. Well, so much for that. You know, we used to I mean, we were growing up, we used to tease people about those things, but usually it was little less dangerous than that.
When I worked in a paper mill, they sent me over to the other mill. You need to go get a bucket of steam or I don’t know. You can’t get steam in a bucket. But, you know, that was their way of playing with people.
Dr. Morse: But they were messing with you because you’re a kid.
Fr. Jack: Yeah, pretty much. But me, you know, we’re past this point, and now it becomes very clear to me why these these groups are targeting the young, because they know if they get them young enough that they won’t fight the battle.
Dr. Morse: Right. Right. And, you know, it occurs to me, Father, we live in a post-Christian era. We live in a post-truth era. And so in our post-truth world world, we actually have quite a few different words that mean untruth. Right. So, you know, there’s lying, there’s deception, there’s half-truths, there’s innuendo and there’s grooming. You know, the term grooming is a particular kind of untruth, right?
Because you’re trying to persuade somebody to to perceive you in a certain way so that you can manipulate them. It’s a specific kind of manipulation, right? It’s sexual grooming and and that kind of thing. So, oh, we now need all these different words to describe in truth, because there’s so many different ways that people are deceiving one another.
Fr. Jack: Or even fake news. I mean, it’s like, yeah, you know, that’s a that’s a prime example. I don’t know if it was Trump or somebody, but that’s become pretty much part of every the only other word that I think that’s really interesting that’s come to me in the past two years is the word “word salad.” I didn’t know what a word salad was until I watched these interviews.
And I’m thinking, oh, now I understand it. Every every word is just tossed in there and no one knows what it means.
Dr. Morse: Right. It’s not meant to mean anything. It’s not meant to keep your mind occupied. So you don’t think about what’s being said. It’s like, I don’t know, chewing gum. I don’t know. But it’s meant to be a distraction, honestly. You know, I think a lot of academic gobbledygook, which isn’t. That’s a great word, isn’t it? You haven’t heard that word in a long time.
But yeah, “word salad” is a kind of term for academic gobbledygook. It’s meant to distract you from the underlying truth of things. Right. You can’t. And when you compare that to something like, you know, st Thomas, you just read a few paragraphs of Saint Thomas and you go, you know, he’s so careful with every word.
Fr. Jack: Oh, yes.
Dr. Morse: And he doesn’t he he won’t just talk about Grace. He’s got like 15 adjectives describing different types of grief, you know. Right, right. And every one of them is important, you know, and the distinctions he’s able to think clearly because he can draw distinctions. Right. And and we lose that when when people are talking in terms of bumper stickers, bumper sticker reality, you know, only about 15 seconds soundbites.
Right. You know, you you can’t say everything that needs to be said in that environment.
Fr. Jack: All right, Dr. Morse, can you stay with us over the break and we’ll talk about your your latest newsletter, especially how now the word grooming is becoming a hate language.
Dr. Morse: Yeah, sure. I’d be glad to.
Fr. Jack: Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse is the president of the Ruth Institute. When she continues to challenge this, the areas of culture that are, you know, detrimental to our life as human beings and to know the truth and to live in a free way. Dr. Morris, thanks for staying with us today.
Dr. Morse: Oh, I’m glad to do it, Father. It’s always fun talking with you.
Fr. Jack: You know, one of the things that you mentioned in your latest newsletter is basically that big tech and including that the big social media people have now attacked the word grooming to say someone is being groomed and now it’s being called Twitter, called the use of the expression hateful conduct because it claims it stigmatizes ties is when used in the context of gender identity.
Dr. Morse: Yeah, well, that’s what they’re saying. And when I first saw the headline, I thought, “What in the world? They don’t want people to use the word groomer?” Well, the reason they don’t want to use the word groomer is because one way or another, sex ed in the school is a kind of systematic grooming of children because it’s sexualizing them.
It’s setting them up to be to be thinking more about sexual things than they than a child that age should be thinking about. And in the context of gender identity, it’s inducing confusion in children. Okay. And so in general, the term grooming means manipulating children to make them susceptible to sexual exploitation. And so when you’re talking about gender identity, the term grooming can be can be adults who are manipulating children to become confused about their sexual or their gender identity.
And the fact that people are using this term now to great effect, it’s extremely embarrassing for the activists to be called groomers. Right. So Twitter is just zooming in to to protect the transgender branch of the sexual revolution. And and they’re mechanically sending out. But, you know, because that’s how they do it, right. They they tag keywords and they send their little robots out there.
You know, to say, whenever we find this keyword smack them down, you know. And so to use that kind of mechanical form of censorship on a topic that is this sensitive, it’s really heavy handed, ham-fisted and indefensible, frankly indefensible. I mean, if these people want to say we are we’re not manipulating children in any way whatsoever, we’re talking about things children really need to hear about.
Well, by golly, stand up and defend yourself. Say that, explain it. Explain how that’s true. And when somebody says we think this is manipulative speech, which is what the word you know, if you call them grooming, that’s what you’re saying. You’re saying, right. Manipulative, right. Well, defend yourself. Don’t shut down other people’s speech because you can’t defend yourself.
Okay, that’s not right. And that’s Okay, that’s not right. And that’s what’s going on here, in my opinion.
Fr. Jack: Well, but that’s the whole progressive mindset. You remove words so that people lose the ability to articulate the the truth in the midst of all the lies they’re doing. And it is a shameful thing that this is just my opinion. But I believe that many of the teachers are being forced into this. I mean, many of the teachers I know that’s the last thing they want to do is talk to young kids about this.
But their jobs and the unions are on their case. If you want to keep this job, you must do you know that’s and so absolutely.
Dr. Morse: I hear that as well. I hear and and I hear it often enough that I completely believe it. I mean, what person who deals with small children who goes into teaching because they love children and they want to help children and they want to educate people? You know, people don’t generally go into this line of work simply because they want to go along with the latest sexual fad, whatever that is, you know, that is coming in from the outside.
It’s coming from the top down. And in this way, Father, what’s going on with the transgender movement is true. Very, very substantial proof of my thesis in the book, The Sexual State, because my whole claim there was that the sexual revolution is not a grassroots cultural movement, never has been. It has always been top down from the elite and the government and the academics and Hollywood and these type of people with a lot of money and influence and the foundations, you know, the Rockefeller Foundation and all these people, that’s where the sexual revolution has come from.
And with the transgender issue, anyone with eyes to see can see that this is the case. Most people don’t remember when no fault divorce was introduced, and so they don’t remember how that all went out right. But we can anybody can see that the transgender ideology is coming from the top down. There is no grassroots movement of parents and teachers saying, by golly, it’s so important that we let little boys into the girls locker room.
You know, nobody that’s that’s just not what’s going on here.
Fr. Jack: Well, and it’s and it’s the same thing, especially, as you said, the whole in many cases, much of the psychiatric psychological movement has taken this in. And they it everything is, again, seem to at once to create a brand new society. But that society is truly an anti-human society.
Dr. Morse Yes. Yes, I’m starting to call it Kinsey Land. You know, the Kinsey world, you know, the world that Alfred Kinsey imagined for everybody is a world where there are no sexual taboos. Everybody gets to have as much sex as they want. And since no one feels guilty about everything, nothing about anything, nothing bad ever happens to anyone. We have perfectly functioning contraception.
And so nothing, you know, just nothing bad ever happens. You know, that’s the Kinsey/Green World. And there are a lot of people who are deeply committed to that. And they have the power to to try to reshape the world into their into their own image, which which means that these kids are sitting ducks. You know, and one of the things that they have to do to make this world work is they’ve got to see children as sexual beings and make sure their parents are not there to protect them.
Right. That the parents are a problem because the parents get freaked out. And that’s why it’s bad, you know, that’s why sex with children is bad. So on. And so, so they really are trying to recreate the world in their own image. And it’s an irrational world, so it can’t stand, you know, it has to be propped up all the time.
It requires force and it requires propaganda and it requires social engineering and new language and new words and just constant, constant barrage of things to keep this fantasy alive.
Fr. Jack: Right. Dr. Moore, thank you so much for sharing with us today your thoughts on this. And if people want to find out more about the Truth Institute and subscribe to your weekly newsletter and see the Dr. J Show on, on Ramble and your other places. Where can we send them?
Dr. Morse: You need to go to RuthInstitute.org. There’s Ruth Institute dot org. And we have a very active Facebook page and we have an active YouTube channel and now an active rumble page. And we’re making a practice now farther on all of our videos. As we post them up, we make sure to put a link to rumble. So if you’re on our YouTube page, you can easily find our rumble page.
That’s our goal now to to overcome some of this censorship that we’ve been subject to.
Fr. Jack: When I look forward tomorrow night to see and your on Fox News as you talk about this issue.
I hope it happens I hope it happens you know that I did. And let me explain what happened. I got a call from Lauren Greene, who was their religion correspondent over there. And I interviewed with her for like a half hour for her podcast. I think it’s called Light House Faith Podcast, and that they expect that to be posted sometime over the weekend.
But what she told me is that there was going to be like a two minute package. They call it a little two minute segment that would air on some other program. I guess it’s Fox News at night or something. Yeah. And that would that would be airing. And she told me now, not tonight, but tomorrow night. I think I think that’s what it is.
So, you know, I’m probably not going to stay up that way too much, to be honest with you.
Fr. Jack: But hey, nothing wrong with hitting the big time Doctor Moore’s, you have a good weekend.
Thanks, Father. Appreciate you very much.
About the Ruth Institute
The Ruth Institute is a global non-profit organization, leading an international interfaith coalition to defend the family and build a civilization of love.
Jennifer Roback Morse has a Ph.D. in economics and has taught at Yale and George Mason University. She is the author of The Sexual State and Love and Economics – It Takes a Family to Raise a Village.
To get more information or schedule an interview with Dr. Morse, contact media@ruthinstitute.org.
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