
Dr. Jennifer Morse interview with Fr. Rob Jack taken from “Driving Home the Faith” on Sacred Heart Radio
Originally aired February 17, 2022
Published March 2, 2022
In this episode of the Ruth Institute Podcast, we listen to Dr. Morse discussing with Fr. Rob Jack the recent appointment of Sam Brinton to the Office of Nuclear Energy.
Amongst various aspects, Dr. Morse describes that some members of the federal government use appointments to flex the sexual revolution’s muscles. Passing away are the days when the best person is chosen on account of merit. The Sam Brinton appointment is proof of that fact.
Also, Dr. Morse speaks of her interview with Susan Constantine, forensic body-language expert, who appeared on the Dr. J Show and spoke at the Summit for Survivors 2021. She teaches about duping delight and how Sam Brinton’s story of torture in conversion therapy is almost certainly false. This same false story is being used to ban sexual orientation change efforts (SOCE) across the nation.
Additionally, Morse mentions Fr. Paul Sullins research which examines statistics from the Williams Institute which demonstrates that SOCE are not harmful to individuals who receive this form of treatment.
Fr. Sullins, an associate of the Ruth Institute and convert from Anglicanism to Catholicism, published his research in early February of 2022 (Sexual Orientation Change Efforts Do No Harm – Ruth Institute). Among other things, he finds that failed attempts of individuals who were seeking to change his or her own homosexual tendencies did not lead to negative behavioral differences or trauma. For the full study, see: Absence of Behavioral Harm Following Non-efficacious Sexual Orientation Change Efforts: A Retrospective Study of United States Sexual Minority Adults, 2016–2018
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Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse joins the show to unpack a study on children raised in same sex households that she says was buried because its findings did not match the conclusions some researchers wanted. The conversation focuses on how earlier claims that “the kids are fine” were built on weak samples, and why newer, more representative data has produced very different results. We also discuss Mark Regnerus’s work, how ideology can shape the use of social science data, and why statistical methods like multiverse analysis matter when researchers choose what to include, exclude, or redefine.
Key topics In this episode, Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse explains why she believes the latest video from the Ruth Institute exposes a suppressed study on gay parenting. She says the original “kids are fine” narrative relied heavily on small, nonrandom samples, including early studies based on 26 couples and other convenience samples. Morse contrasts those older studies with newer, larger, more representative datasets that she says show more serious emotional difficulties among children of same sex parents. She discusses Father Paul Sullens’s role in reexamining a 2016 study and pushing researchers to revisit their conclusions. The conversation revisits Mark Regnerus’s 2012 research on adult children from same sex households and the criticism he faced before his findings were later vindicated. Morse explains the difference between asking parents how their children are doing and asking adult children about their own outcomes after leaving the household. She argues that once government and census-style datasets became available, the earlier consensus about “no differences” became much less secure. The discussion turns to ideological bias in academia, with Morse warning that claims like “the science is settled” can be used to shut down questions rather than answer them. She connects the broader problem of relativism and ideological capture to medicine, law, and the public interpretation of data. Morse closes by describing how multiverse analysis can test whether a result holds up across many possible analytic choices, and why that kind of checking matters for controversial social science.
About the Ruth Institute
The Ruth Institute is a global non-profit organization, leading an international interfaith coalition to defend the family and build a civilization of love.
Jennifer Roback Morse has a Ph.D. in economics and has taught at Yale and George Mason University. She is the author of The Sexual State and Love and Economics – It Takes a Family to Raise a Village.
To get more information or schedule an interview with Dr. Morse, contact media@ruthinstitute.org.

